Reloading Data .38 Special (Using Hornady Bullets) Metallic Think a lot of people would find that a .44 special or .45 Colt, in a decent revolver, a viable alternate to a pistol. Everyone here who has tried plated bullets including myself, have had disappointing results in accuracy. I use CCI Snake shot for two and Buffalo Bore short Barrel 130 gr. 6.) The mention of a Lee Loader somewhere above took me back to the good-old days. DISTINGUISHED LOADS SUCK - Distinguished Revolver loads that don't suck? The Internet Pedant Lord only knows how many cartridge cases I hammered with a plastic mallet into that Lee, it had to be thousands. of Bullseye with Lee's 125gr RN mold in a 38 special with so-so accuracy. I have found that if you go down too low in charge you will have some ignition issues occasionally. Load with 38 S&W data. *WAP is not best choice for .38 special, too slow and inconsistent. I have tested both brass and nickel-plated cases using mild loadings and have not yet worn out a case. Any hotter and we get into a recoil issue. SASS# 85224. Brass collection is easy since it doesnt eject. Im new to loading the 38 for accuracy, but the biggest issue I found with case length is your crimp. My son asked if I wanted him to help, then fired one shot and handed it back. I just bought a Lyman mold 160 round nose with a crimp groove. This would be for plinking for my wife's ~3" Rossi, so something light and fun to shoot would be great. While I wish I could carry a 5 .45 WITNESS with several 10 round mags, as a senior citizen, the S&W J frame is my user friendly alternate. This represents a great start, and if thats all you do, youll still be far better off than the majority of the population. Like the author said, I consider it a garbage disposal round as you can load it with almost anything with good results. As a result, Ive been able to spend far more time practicing with it rather than fussing with it. My use of the term adequate means that Hodgdon has produced a workable result for the .38 Special, .38 Special +P, and .357 Magnum that may be used for 125 grain weight bullets having velocity limitations. Insufficient crimping ) ARCHIVED. These are light and easy to shoot. Recoil is the good kind that reminds the shooter handguns are serious tools but without eliciting a flinch. Hit the Bullseye with Bullseye: Classic Loads from a Classic Powder - SWAT Both have fed 100% in a variety of pistols and have shot very well. hebyta Word to the wise: all handgun cartridges (with the likely exception of .44 Magnum and maybe even .357 Magnum) are underpowered for self-defense. The Pistol a Smith and Wesson model 27-2 The goal is two fold. Unlike many other guns Ive owned and carried, this little snubby really cant be modified much beyond factory configuration. I stopped handloading around 1985, so Im not certain how much technology has changed in that area, but in general it sounds like our experiences are similar. Id pay at least a dollar to see it. load is 4.4 grains for 38 special and 5.0 grains is a +P load. Midwest Supply Group. CORBON 38SPL+P 125GR JHP 20/500 A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:00 am, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:36 pm, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:46 pm, byPacFltShooter Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:45 pm, byPacFltShooter Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:50 pm. True enough that it doesnt make power factor for Custom Defensive Pistol in IDPA or major in USPSA competition. I use 2.8-3.0 grains of Bullseye or AA#2 with 158 gr. The instructors worked magic in many cases, but having a load like this to gradually work shooters onto full-strength loads would have been a great tool. In terms of thousands of rounds of range practice, though, that is a definite no-go in my book. 3.) When you say "not working" can you be more specific? I'm still hunting for a DR load for my S&W M19-5. I found it to be a nice blend of accuracy, soft recoil, and sure functioning, with enough spice behind it to reliably topple steel targets. 1.455 in. PDF Cast Bullets in the .38 Special - Castpics Jack it up a notch and go with .327 Federal Magnum. 3.7gr WST with Zero 158 SWC did the job for me. TITEGROUP AND 125GR 38 SPECIAL LOAD DATA Ammunition-Gunsmithing Reloading Forum Register Notices Consider Becoming A Supporting Member Click HERE For The Benefits Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here Thread Tools Display Modes # 1 01-24-2016, 05:38 AM RONALD HENSLEY Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Waynesville NC Posts: 114 Likes: 12 No more lead in the barrel or on my hands. I really enjoy Trail Boss and use it extensively for plain lead and plated bullets. Therefore, your platform yields a lot of safety cushion with target loads. Lucky me. Only the Model 60 sometimes have factory installed grips that are not worthless. Accurates No. As anyone learns quickly, first thing that needs to be done is to replace the small factory S&W grips (I use Hogue) so you can hold onto the gun. 9 and others like 2400 that are generally used for magnums). Components add up to far less than even generic grade factory ammo. One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck. 9mm 125 gr RN Lead Cast Bullets for Reloading - Stateline Bullets The big medicine was delivered by a 1911, but S&W K frames (favorites were Models 12 & 64) took care of everything else. I carry my M642 extensively, but I only shoot it occasionally because it is a snappy little b!tch with standard loads. That one Ill keep. 10,870. Super-Accurate .38 Super Loads - Shooting Times 38 Special Loads for Bullseye Titegroup and 125gr 38 Special Load Data Ive been loading 158gr FMJ with Titegroup and the only problem Ive had is getting the seating depth right after the die locknut slipped. Click there and go to the load data lookup section . I was just trying to get a general consensus of what other guys were using. Its worth mentioning that loaders do all kinds of obsessive rituals to squeeze the groups down. A longer case, with have a tighter crimp them a shorter one, what will lead to variations in pressure, and accuracy. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Rookie, back in the day when I was reloading I went through a 3 round butt L. Horton special model 24, a 4 24 and a 4 624. At belly button range, very nasty load. In 38/357 they don't list 105 gr bullets, but the do list 90's and 125's. Easy enough to extrapolate for a 105 grain . This Cast Reloading Bullet feeds great in automatics and has excellent accuracy in both the 9mm and 38 Super. Many reloading manuals also list an estimated pressure with a given load. Winchester's website has data for W231 and a 125 gr LRNFP, but not plated. Me too! .38 J frame.) Just dont shoot a rabbit with this load if you want to be able to eat any of it. I don't have a chronograph, but have considered picking one up. Dont take this the wrong way; Im guessing the average age of .38 spl fans is about my age (70). Unique was a sooty powder so Ive switched to W231. Boolit Grand Master. Now, you have to go to a range or have a membership and pay to fill the backstop with lead. This too is useful information. Anyone know where I can download a chart where all the powders burning rates (regardless of manufacturer) is listed. What I learned after 50 years of shooting and reloading 38spl cases some where around 100 thousands rounds. Since it hit the market 103 years ago, it has been a staple for most handloaders and the backbone of most accuracy loads in the popular calibers. You may find it will need to be faster for good 50 yd. Shot many thousands of my bullseye powder reloads with it. I miss those days. Reloading for it came next and it has since become my favorite pistol cartridge. It was introduced in 1902 by Smith & Wesson, and has since become a worldwide cartridge. Pasted as rich text. I have a few 30-30 cases modified to shoot singles with a very light load. Forget about it. These were one each in .45 ACP, .38 Special, and 9mm. BTW, I wish I had any one of those three revolvers today. I agree with your .38 Special assessment points for the very same reasons. However, after consulting my several different manuals, 3.5 seems to be a border line max load. Nothing, they dont need any. But not too tough. looks like today. The fast powders, W231, HP38, Bullseye would go over pressure very quickly with any slight changes, in seating depth or primer change. So I'd think you should find a decent load for short line at about 700 Fps and for the long line at about 800. Power Pistol won't work for me. I can get away with using it as cast w/ alox. It is easy to load in progressive presses and has commercially available options from virtually all modern manufacturers. The quality of the loads equals a bargain. In my area, Bullseye is one of the first powders to disappear from shelves, lasting about a heartbeat longer than an econo bulk box of .22 Long Rifle ammunition. And if youre doing that [shooting 158 grain bullets at 1200 fps muzzle velocity] with a snub.let me know I wanna watch you shoot em. Currently using Titegroup, but started out with, and loaded many thousands of rounds, with Bullseye. I'm guessing they still go bang, and leave the gun to go downrange. I recently bought trail boss and it runs fine out of my 14-3. revolver, with a 3 barrel, and 4 6 oz. Even at hot .44 mag velocities my Super Redhawk has shiny bore with zero leading. WST is less dense than BE. Red Dot work fine for most 38 Special loads. Damn. 38 special 125gr copper plated HP38 reloading data Very forgiving with a straight wall case, and tons of bullet variety. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=1, I also have the Berry's 125gr plated flat point bullet and I am trying to find a min and max load with unique powder. Reading the "WARNING" on the site, it states to not exceed the loads published and to start 10% below the loads shown and work up from there. If she had shot more, I would have probably bought another set of dies, to prevent the need for changing adjustments between the two. In fact, in the past I specifically sought out revolvers chambered in 38 SPL only, knowing I would never be putting a 357 Mag in it (I carried a 4 GP100 chambered in 38 SPL as a duty sidearm in the early 90s). 38 Special 125 gr XTP - Hornady Manufacturing, Inc Maybe its just me, but having that tiny bit of extra length and weight in the cylinder that I was never going to use just kinda bothered me. 125 gr plated or 125 gr lead RN. The .44 spl. Ive been reloading and shooting for over 40 years and love revolvers but 90% of the time my carry gun is a Sig 365 with a 12 round mag and a spare. This pistol uses the .38 Special with a Remington wadcutter bullet seated flush with the case mouth. You are spot on about Trail Boss, that stuff is magical with cast reloads. Thinking of using it in NRA Action pistol or PPC. i use a Lee mold 150 round nose with 4 grains of bullseye crimped into the crimp groove of the bullet. I recently picked up a 396 Nightguard and am a convert to the 44 Special! The trigger has smoothed out over time. I, like Spartacus, find the SAAMI recommendations an interesting spec for comparative purposes. I first started reloading 40+ years ago at a Lee Loader in .38 Special for a brand new Smith & Wesson Model 66 I had just purchased. Ive played with several that I like, but the classic in 9mm is 4.4 grains driving a 115-grain jacketed bullet. is limited to either the various Charter Arms models, or as a training/target load in a .44 magnum size handguns. Re: 38 special loads by GrumpyOldMan 11/10/2013, 4:23 pm IIRC, the NRA Action Pistol power floor is a "factor" of 125, which requires a full 1,000 fps for 125-gr bullets. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 5.0 gr unique with berry's 125gr = .38 Special squibs (solved ! Classic loads are economical. These are hand loads.. load data was published in Lyman 50th edition.. Most DNR (Do Not Reduce) loads are well over 900-fps. 2.) I have some W231 that I use for my .38 super. Jacketed bullets are not legal for Distinguished Revolver. Zero 158 grain swaged SWC, Starline brass, Winchester or Federal primer, 2.8 grains of Bullseye, roll crimp. I agree, an airweight has snappy recoil. Designed in 1898, the .38 Smith & Wesson Special cartridge went on . )Lastly, the .38 SPL has a very large following and materials can be had readily. That for just a nice shooting load one cant beat 148gr wad-cutter for pure fun. I soon traded off a Colt Frontier Scout .22 LR for an S&W Model 15 and happily chased all manner of small game and landfill targets with my stash of wadcutters. I had enough, The Model 1911 pistol will officially turn 100 years old on May 5, 2011. 4.0 gr. 7.) That isnt unique to Bullseye, but is certainly more pronounced with the relatively small charges required. Both are excellent fight stoppers. Shoot cast and coated bullets and you can go much higher in load and velocity. .38 Special - CHUCKHAWKS.COM This. Nickle cases look pretty but dont seem to take the number of resizings that plain brass cases do. .38 Special Bullseye/148gr Berrys wadcutter???? - 24hourcampfire Cartridge : .38 Special (SAAMI)Bullet : .357, 125, FP Rainier Useable Case Capaci: 20.320 grain H2O = 1.319 cm Cartridge O.A.L. What sort of wildlife are you thinking would be a good application for this self-defense load?

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