A flight attendant like a pilot, goes through random drug tests. Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand theKCM Rules for Useand comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. We have to submit to a background check to even have KCM.. its a shame a few bad incidents have to ruin this privilege,so tired of the public thinking we are provided with so many nice benefits we arent. I've always been concerned they let them into known crewmember from day one. It's about protecting those who aren't from the delays and damage caused by the searches. Do not go through KCM. And TSA doesn't enforce mask mandates anymore, and when they did it was because they had to follow the directive of The And TSA doesn't enforce mask mandates anymore, and when they did it was because they had to follow the directive of The federal government. Absolutely no verification of credentials or inspection of personal items. Carriage of another individuals property through the KCM portal to circumvent screening is prohibited. axes, hatchets or similar. Where they can't, or don't, expand, everyone's delays will get worse. This includes: one open liter of alcoholic beverage and 300 cigarettes, or 50 cigars, or 2 kilograms of smoking tobacco, or a proportionate amount of each; merchandise not exceeding $200 in value, which may include gifts the crew member has purchased for persons in the United States, free of duty. Do exactly the opposite. CrewPASS has been used successfully at three East Coast airportsBaltimore/Washington International (BWI), Pittsburgh International (PIT) and Columbia (S.C.) Metropolitan (CAE)for almost three years. 0000004686 00000 n I would love to see the upcoming changes on the program since I'm currently a flight attendant. Get ready for crew members to be cutting in front of you everywhere ! [1] [2] Collectively called cabin crew, flight attendants are primarily responsible for passenger safety and comfort. 0000045258 00000 n Goood good. I was getting randomly selected so many times, I never renewed my KCM. Crew Member responsibilities include assisting customers as needed, answering questions, and completing daily tasks. It's not about logistics. Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. Special Use Airspace. 0 If Will is a pilot, it only reinforces the often primadonma, elitist egos of many pilots. Items prohibited in checked baggage but permitted in hand baggage. Thats fine. The Port Agent will arrange transportation to the ship's next port of call. For those who abuse the line, like while going to leisure international travel, which is not permitted, an immediate 6 months suspension without pay. The majority of flight attendants and pilots follow the rules. Let the hate flow through you. We should not take a step backward. It is only there to prevent security threats to aviation, originally hijacking then terrorist attacks. I guarantee if you're a flight attendant reading this you've said "oF cOuRsE I diD!" Therefore, KCM eligible crewmembers are required to understand these KCM Rules for Use and comply with these rules while using the KCM access points. Real professional comment on your part. I honestly don't give a flying beep about ending KCM. Know what you can pack before arriving at the airport by checking the prohibited items list. Youre a bunch of loser clowns. Crewmembers may not bring pets or pet carriers through the KCM access point. I'm also a flight attendant and I don't know about that since it looks like you're happy with arriving an extra couple hours even before your report time at the gate. It's not at all fair to the crew members who do the right thing. Airline pilot here. Flight attendants should have a probationary period and then allowed in as well. So easy to tell some of you are not actually pilots because you know nothing about the crew procedures. Tuesday, April 13, 2021. Will the Expedited Crew Access program require all pilots and flight attendants to be screened, or? It's the easiest post. Unfortunately, due to the dubious actions and agendas of a few, here we are. Just give us our own lane already. Why, because it would require manpower that TSA is unwilling/unable to hire. This is exactly why you dont want the US government telling you how to live your life or whats good for you. 0000007899 00000 n You can get more details about them at CBP's prohibited and restricted items list.10. For information about the Known Crewmember program, please contact us at:info@knowncrewmember.org. In the meantime, random screenings through the program will continue to increase, to minimize the number of prohibited items being brought through security. The use of the KCM program is a privilege and not a right. Is air travel going to get even MORE expensive? KCM does not exempt a crewmember from complying with these additional screening techniques. You don't like your job and you feel so miserable at it. System Transfers Awarded Effective May 1, 2023, AFA Reporting System Memberlink Grievance Portal Update, AFA Grievance Reporting System Memberlink Planned Downtime for Server Move, Interruption of Reserve Legal Rest While at Home, Two New Letters of Agreement Approved by United MEC. What else are they catching? Its not just flight attendants fault khaki pants and white sneakers boy. I'll bet you're very good at stacking pillows and blankets around something you'll never find. Pilots have years and $100,000 plus dollars invested in this career. Crewmembers may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. If they want to look in my bag, no problem. The TSA is a SECURITY SCREENING AGENCY not the DEA. It didnt always exist. The people being caught with contraband are both flight attendants and pilots. The Known Crewmember program (often abbreviated KCM) allows select airline pilots and flight attendants to enter the sterile area of the airport without going through the standard security screening process. This is going to cause As a flight attendant myself I see this as another power grab by the government entity tsa. Once you arrive at the boarding gate and your pass has not been properly marked by the TSA, you will be sent back to the passenger screening checkpoint for proper screening. You have basic first aid. I say, take it from those who violate the policy, but don't penalize those of who do right. I will not come here to say one is worse than the other, while I have witnessed my fair share of the other half doing things they should not. Such conduct can jeopardize crewmembers of their right to participate in the program and consequently jeopardizes the entire Known Crew Member (KCM) program. That, and the fact that pilots or flight attendants could threaten the safety of the flight, makes crewmembers unique. This isnt the 1980s anymore. Why is all the blame put on flight attendants? In most instances, the TSA will send the crewmember a Letter of Investigation (LOI) explaining the incident that occurred, identifying the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) which the TSA believes was violated, and requesting a written response. Once a gangster town. always a gangster town - starting at the top down (with the exclusion of The Obamas - they were the major good that ever came out of Chicago). Pilots have repeatedly been caught bringing guns. TSA is out of controltheir job is to prevent a 9-11but today they are covid mask enforcers, DEA agents, uniform police etc etcKCM was paid for and pushed in by ALPA with alpa duesthe F/A's got in for free and ruined it. Thats why why have an attitude, but when the government stopped paying yall we were some of the first work groups trying to see what we could do to help yall out. They just walk all the way inside the secured area without being challenged or ID/Badge checked. While prohibited and restricted items may sound the same, there is an actual difference - prohibited items must never be sent in the post, while restricted items may be sent in the post, but restrictions will apply. https://www.afacwa.org/setting_record_straight_kcm_rumors?fbclid=IwAR2Jx6AzwBq_JTj471QFrQZST-hQzQNXJEa26tUuXbfKvLQLc_UNFuWuNzc. If I need to go through the line, the smurfs need to go through the line too. GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!! If your pass has a SSSS printed on it, you must undergo selectee screening at the passenger screening checkpoint. /5FR_+`aj` H xX The SF system randomly selects individuals to undergo selectee screening and will identify the printed boarding pass or seat request card with a SSSS. This is just going to exacerbate the problem of long lines and lack of precheck in multiple terminals, You can even point to this as a reason for the insane crowding at lounges were seeing. The current system is broken beyond repair at the moment. Well, at least for larger airports. The TSA is just theater of the absurd (95% fail rate*) . Contact Us. The protection from unwarranted searching isn't about protecting people carrying contraband. Ive been going through regular security when I arrive at the airport at my home base just to avoid the bother of being sent there anyway. The Department of Homeland Security and the White House also have given their approval for KCM. The duration of disqualification from participation in KCM is related to the seriousness of the violation and/or a repeated history of regulatory violations. There weren't "delays" before KCM. And how might a TSA random screening have prevented the German wings incident? This is not good for regular TSA Pre-Check users. Second, customers are always disappointed when a crew member steps to the front of a line. SIDA badge holder to carry it into the sterile area then give to the FA for delivery - many SIDA badge holders make less than FAs with easy entry into a position as long as they have a clean-ish background. I could list 100 - 200 more issues that are problematic with this system but I am truly hoping you'll get the point of why I think our screening system is broken. Would have been cool if Clayton Osbon had a gun too right? Dont just blame a work group. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. ]m+o^tw?Mxw7{[7Clikcno9b. Contact Put 10 crew members in a line, 8 will get random. Zero??? And no one has said who pays for KCM now but it does cost something to operate and that funding should move to the TSA. 0000060977 00000 n The REAL problem is that airline management, in conjunction with the FA unions, basically hire anyone with a "pulse" to be a Flight Attendant. You walk on your own to TSA Pre and wait in line with everyone else. Duh. after being told you got a random. 2.3 The outdated machines are looking for glycerine - a primary agent in bombs of the past. There's always going to be a few who thwart the rules and get busted. Provisions for Dangerous Goods Carried by Passengers or Crew (Subsection 2.3) Dangerous goods must not be carried in or as passengers or crew, checked or carry-on baggage, except as otherwise 2 provided below. If they can make their annual salary as a flight attendant with a couple of runs, then they might figure its worth the risk. Drug interdiction isn't TSA's job and they know it. As for the flight attendant vs. pilot issue, the justification for including flight attendants was always that there simply was not A large part of the problem was allowing crew members - pilots or flight attendants - to use KCM when off duty with the exception of going immediately taccess o/from their base as a commuter. Lets not forget is was started by ALPA for pilots. Punish those that broke the rule. A flight attendant, also known as steward / stewardess or air host / air hostess, is a member of the aircrew aboard commercial flights, many business jets and some government aircraft. What is the intent of Known Crewmember (KCM)? And if I run out of duty day because I've been standing in line, oh well. Legal Notice: This website is only intended to provide an overview of the Known Crewmember program. Seriously??? Encourage your airline to be more stringent in hiring, join You seem to be missing the point and just jumping on the offense instead. So, what is even closer scrutiny Crewmembers are subject to a federal background check and fingerprinting as a result of 9/11. It was thought up and the Airline pilots Union and not he Flight attendants union. "Y'all fucked around and found out". H\n@E|E/E*Hc'IFvb@m/7HdsSnv&vgs.x 7$/L)Icvy7M;fxI:dn&_0VLot){u~?b'&o:L;v25pIcex?tw I],GpE%og9.Z,Y?"[Z\Kr dfEZvg_}Yee_}Yec_}999999999998s9A0G#s9=(xdYsY8sA8sA8sPAW+ Q:My airline is participating in the KCM program; where can I get a KCM barcode card? That is not correct. Are allowed front-of-the-line access atTSA PreCheck lanes and standard passenger screening lanes. But it's ridiculous to get rid of a program that seems to be working fairly good so far. We do get front of the line access. Crewmembers may not transit the KCM portal with any. The folks that said lets punish those that break the rules are the only ones that have common sense. Is the little baby upset that he can't go thru KCM cause his coworkers got busted smuggling drugs? If a pilots wanted to do something bad they could, weve seen it with Malaysian airlines pilots taking that flight down. The KCM system uses a secure connection to communicate with the participating airlines crewmember database to determine the eligibility and employment status of the crewmember. Imagine getting upeset that people smuggling narcotics are getting caught. Actually ALL flight attendant and pilots are required to scan our badge and it's mandatory. You seem to have a rather myopic view of the situation. Crew members may not transit the KCM portal with any TSA prohibited items. If you combine all the flight attendants and look at the numbers is it even close to 1% of crew members doing this? This was discipline issued by the carrier and documented by TSA. I have PreCheck and Ive waited at least 30 minutes several times between April and October this year. When it was expanded to include flight attendants, we almost immediately saw issues developing. Thats why youre smurfs. Why would there be when you can dump whatever you are smuggling or take it to your car? They are a clueless bunch of goons. The ones working the KCM check point are the laziest ones. They are the problem, not pilots. If your crew-member record is SPOTLESS, your random screening should be much much less. Crewmembers are permitted to bring personal property through the KCM access points as long as that property is not on theTSAs. Therefore, we recommend that all Flight Attendants abide by the following rules to protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program: As a reminder, KCM is accessible only for "active" crewmembers. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Im a flight attendant and Ive been random 18 times out of 22 since I started counting in January. ..and do what with the flight attendants? Thanks to the right wing gun nuts that cant tell a difference between their flight bag and a range bag. 0000003052 00000 n If I'm not trusted, then fine. How is that a thing??? Questions about the specifics of the program should be directed to your airline. It gets Americans used to standing in line while goons grope you - welcome to our increasing police state. Adding searches of gate personnel and aircrew adds around 5% to the number of searches. Crewmembers who do not have a KCM barcode card, have a worn/unreadable barcode card, or have not completed the registration process will be referred to the passenger screening checkpoint for entry into the airport sterile area If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. The ship began its fateful voyage on November 7, 1872, sailing with seven crewmen and Capt. Zr 6+D`CWqkvqdG;\x\pxuS]\`IR]C}0MH7nVi V^VOHD \/q,B"A ?#a),O 6o_?y \Q:@ av Flight attendants do not have as much to loose as a pilot. The announcement comes after the TSA reportedly discovered crew members smuggling unlawful items and substances through airport security checkpoints. For those passengers saying we are using a program that they are paying for. Who is to say they can't hand off drugs or weapons. I was impressed with KCM at SFO the other day. Funny how you said that it's the flight attendants when I can tell because I actually work as a flight attendant that just last month a PILOT went through KCM with a loaded weapon that he should have declared. If a crewmember does not present an active KCM barcode card and is referred for screening, they must follow the TSOs instructions and complete the screening process at the passenger screening checkpoint. Instead it should focus on how TSA has become more relaxed and lazy at doing their jobs and are short staffed and dont have officers to man the KCM station so everytime someone gets randomed they are throwing a pissy fit about having to walk over. That would solve the vast majority of the issues. Cabin Readiness Safety & Compliance Reminder! So to clarify, a flight attendant like a pilot is required to do a strenuous background check. For travel tips and a complete list of items prohibited from carry-on or checked baggage, visit www.TSATravelTips.us or call the Contact Center toll-free at 1-866-289-9673. As a result of having the FAA certificate, they are allowed to use the KCM lines. Q. I said I'm not concerned with passenger volume or wait times. Sorry the rule applies if you don't like it then leave. If a crewmember believes that a KCM denial occurred relative to employment status, they should proceed to the passenger-screening checkpoint for screening and, when time permits, ask an airline supervisor for assistance with the airline KCM record. ice skates. The flight attendants are required to be there before the rest of the crew because they are the ones needed to board passengers. I don't think any pilot would try to bring a family member through KCM when they understand that it just doesn't work that way. Dont worry though, youll be back groping children in no time. Waiters, food services and others, including TSA workers who make minimum wage and have a thankless job, not so much. Known Crew Members (KCM) Lanes KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of crew members. Emirates restricts all smart balance wheels (with or without lithium batteries removed) to be transported as checked-in or carry-on luggage. Im flight crew @ ORD. Airport employees (not only flight crew) who drive & park in the employee lot are able to access the secure side of the airport without going through any security. Once registered, you may begin using the barcode card at any active KCM access point. darts. 0000006114 00000 n Or maybe you cant even afford to get on an airplane with decent crew members you have to take cheap spirit flights. Cleaners/agents/food vendors/cleaning crews/maintenance. It's the flight attendants. They are not the DEA and yet they end up finding ridiculous amounts of drugs usually because some idiot left a water bottle in the bag. As a paying subscriber of CLEAR & TSAPre, I would welcome a dedicated crew/employee line for those employees that are working. When it was in this form, there were virtually no problems. Yes, I demand change. The ones at my company who seem to be on a regular basis are the same ones complaining to the union all the time, whining all night long about this that and the other. 4.1.2. I'm a Flight Attendant for a major US Carrier and I've known of a few that have had privileges suspended for a year and of one who had her privileges permanently revoked. So it's not that they don't understand the reputation-restricted nature of items; it's that they have the rep and still can't buy the items. I use KCM and live in a base. If you have been inactive, on leave, or if you have been temporarily removed from service, you will not have KCM access. "Y'all fucked around and found out". Since you dont deal with people Im going to ignore the commentary on your lack of understanding why its necessary to go through an expedited process as a flight attendant. DGU W2VTsscpKX Ub. I then thank them. We will just have more delayed flights. Imagine having to go through security and adding extra unpaid time to your job every time you went to work. That has never happened at any US domestic airport. Three common soft skills for a mcdonalds . This would no longer be a joint initiative with the Air Line Pilots Association and Airlines for America, but rather would entirely be under the control of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Push through to the front each and every time you clear TSA. And while I'm in line to be scanned throughout the KCM door, they just walk in without ID check. I'm a Flight Attendant for a major US Carrier and I've known of a few that have had privileges suspended for a year and of one who had her privileges permanently revoked. You, Mr "peepee" sound as though you already have a preconceived notion about flight attendants and are lumping us all together. Maybe you should check YOUR attitude! Known Crewmember Sign Up Username Password Password Requirements: Your password must contain at least 15 characters. The folks who say TSA isn't here for drug smuggling interdiction are absolutely correct. Once you receive the barcode card, follow the instructions on the back to register it into the KCM system. 2023 PlanePeople. If you combine all the flight attendants and look at the numbers is it even close to 1% of crew members doing this? Prior to the Known Crewmember program and their dedicated lines, it was not uncommon to spend 10-15 minutes being delayed as crew after crew cut in line to be screened before the regular users. The simple reality is that pilots have FAR more to lose than flight attendants if they risk their career at a KCM checkpoint, and therefore they deserve a higher level of trust. So in reality anyone who come into the airlines as an employee. While exact details remain to be seen, it would appear that airline pilots and flight attendants may have to consistently start going through airport security as of next year. Therefore air passengers are advised not to carry with them such locally made power bank during the journey. It truly serves no purpose, even as a deterrent. Once these tasks are successfully completed, the crewmember will be allowed to proceed into the sterile area. Please follow TSA instructions and do not attempt to resolve the issue with transportation security officers, as they are unable to rectify system failures or denials. The plane wont be leaving without me as long as I inform schedule that Im in the airport. Crewmembers are also subject to random inspection anywhere after security including onboard the aircraft before departure. governments around the world, including in the US, are doing more surveillance of their own citizens - let alone others from other countries. More egregious violations of the Code Federal Regulations (CFRs) could result in civil or criminal penalties. This entire article was a joke and seemed more demeaning than informative. Ive seen grandpa working like its his second career to stay busy. For years, pilots and flight attendants havent had to regularly go through security, thanks to the Known Crewmember Program. The Known Crewmember (KCM) program is a joint initiative between Airlines for America (A4A) and the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA).KCM ties airline employee databases together in a seamless way and enables Transportation Security Administration (TSA) security officers to positively verify the identity and employment status of First as the article stated, pilots fly the airplane so and second, at most major airports ground personnel do not have to clear security at all, ever! And nothing to do with YOU! Basically, cooperate and graduate. Thank you Jennifer for the info. xb```b``AX,n_8ya*d0)ZJR 2 70H@ But only if you're nice. Highly incorrect. If the pilots on a flight become incapacitated, the lives of everyone on board are jeopardized; if the flight attendants become incapacitated, it is a Pilots are not easily replaced, flight attendants are. Stay mad, everyone. On top of missing birthdays, anniversaries, holidays, special occasions etc. A: No. As for the argument about crew members mucking up the pre-check line, the way immigration lines are done should be the standard: there is always a dedicated crew line which pre-check users can use if there are no crew members. Once registered, you may begin using the barcode card at any active KCM access point. So many of these comments are quite entertaining. They just flash their ID and in they go to the secure area. Requiring pilots to meet the same filter as a passenger or FA is sillylook what happened at German Wings A320. Flight crews already have to arrive hours before their flight and are not even getting paid. 0000001314 00000 n 0000005203 00000 n But this could possibly delay flights guess we'll see. Learn more. Making all of us lose this privilege will soon tax tsa, delay flights and and expand misconnects. To protect your ability to participate in the Known Crewmember program, you must abide by the following rules: Authorized flight crew members must travel in uniform. No jumping in front of the line ( I always commute in polo shirts ). Im so tired of the majority of us being punished because of the few idiots that break the rules or commit crimes. And while I'm in line to be scanned throughout the KCM door, they just walk in without ID check. Airlines - KNOWN CREWMEMBER Airlines Pilots from the airlines below currently can participate in the Known Crewmember program. Maybe pilots should stop bringing their guns to work. What do you make of the news of the TSA replacing the Known Crewmember Program with Expedited Crew Access? <]>> Then you have to listen to Its not entitlement. Cops, firefighters and paramedics are first responders. Or that they pay for TSA and we don't because of ticket fees. All airline employees are subject to TSA screening practices conducted within sterile areas, which include roving screening teams, random gate screening and questioning by TSA officers. It does appear the supercilious author of this piece, pulled out his Medallion Card and showed it to the whole worldeven if to mostly blame impoverished flight attendants for being drug mules? Do you know how to build an LRBL at 17,500 feet ? Flight attendants are first responders..they are highly trained professionals.even if some refuse to acknowledge it. Flight attendants have the weapons they need readily available: cockpit access and a bottle of wine from the galley. Are you mad that they aren't letting people smuggle drugs thru security? I witnessed a pilot trying to bring his teenage son through KCM and getting irate because he was told he couldnt. NEWSFLASH: Most hand creams that flight attendants use (#1 preferred product by F/A's is "WORKING HANDS") have glycerine at the VERY TOP of the ingredients list. How do you call yourselves life savers when you routinely smuggle drugs which KILL people. Once you arrive at the boarding gate and your pass has not been properly marked by the TSA, you will be sent back to the passenger screening checkpoint for proper screening. 0000003664 00000 n This whole system is a mess now and its not only hurting crew members, but it will hurt passengers that have paid for TSA pre check to now have to wait for countless crews to go ahead of them. There should be employee TSA entrance, no sense of having crews who show up last minute, which is understandable not having an employee entrance. Q: Does using KCM preclude any chance that I may be selected for additional screening after I successfully transit an access point and proceed into the sterile area of an airport? . I say some because there are agents, pilots, and flights that don't clear security at all. Items Prohibited from Federal Facilities: 4 An Interagency Security Committee Standard List of Prohibited Items 4.0 Lists of Prohibited Items The items that are prohibited in Federal facilities include any item prohibited by any applicable Federal, State, local, and tribal law and/or ordinance, as well as firearms, dangerous weapons, So, my take is its bull and going to cause more problems for everyone. Since they have random and say catch someone doing something illegal make that individual go through the whole security process instead of punishing all of us? 0000012492 00000 n Please stop blaming flight attendants! all while putting up with ATTITUDES & MINDSETS from people like you! My favorite is from all these so called pilots . A: You should remain calm and ask to speak to a Lead or Supervisory Transportation Security Officer (LTSO or STSO) to the discrepancy. 0000001462 00000 n Your password can only be changed once per 24 hours. Are allowed Liquids, Aerosols and Gels (LAGs) and other exemptions applicable to uniformed flight crewmembers atTSA PreCheck. metagenics pyramid schemehow much was $50 cents worth in 1930. long haul trucking companies; blocks of bird breeding cages. If they think after 4 years of school, $100k in training, another 4 years of grinding time as a CFI, after finally becoming a airline pilot that I would even know where to score these drugs then they must think I'm way cooler than I actually am. A: No. Right Eddie!?! (Id really be interested to know what the stats are on that??) Most of these tsa agents are regular people, lower paid, not highly educated.

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